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Query from: udhayakumar, India, 12/17/09
Topic: SPIRITUALITY      Submitted on: Ask Agent
Subject: paavai viratham restrictions

my wife is following paavai viratham this month(Dec),once we have happen to kiss each other(only till that).is this allowed? please suggest me the crisp restrictions between husband/wife relationship to be followed during paavai viratham.

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Response from: sambasivan s,   
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HELLO

rEGARDING PAAVAI VIRATHAM - PLEASE REFER THE LINK:

http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.… I am reminded of my times in Sri Kalasalingam University near Sri Villiputhur and the excellent trips to Andal Temple in Sri Villiputhur. Good place. Good people. U get very very good Pal Gova also.

Now regarding ur question -- during the time she is observing Nonbu - u r supposed not to disturb her physcially and mentally. After nonbu time is over when u go to bed u can be husband and wife. I hope I have answered or clarified ur doubt.

Also I am reminded of THIRUMAL PERUMAI a movie in which Sivaji Ganesan and Miss Jayalalitha acted.

best wishes

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Response from: kiran mande,   
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The stanzas are recited by devotees of Vishnu and Pavai Nombu, a vow dedicated to Andal Ammal, is observed during the month of Margali.

In Andhra Pradesh, the same nombu is observed as Dhanurmasa vratam. Vaishnu bhakta, devotees of Lord Vishnu, recite Thiruppavai during the month and special naivedyam is offered on each day of Dhanur masam. Goda Kalyanam, marriage of Sri Goda Devi and Lord Venkateshwara, is performed during the month.

Pavai Nombu, also referred as Margazhi Nombu, is a month-long vrata observed during the Tamil month of Margazhi or Margali masam. In 2009, Pavai Nombu starts on December 15 and ends on January 14, 2010. Mainly the Nombu is for kanyas or virgin girls who want to get good husbands and pleasant married life. It is believed that Andal was performed the Nombu to get the Lord Vishnu as her husband. Some devotees believe that Gopis, the cowherd girls, were influenced by Pavai Nombu and started to perform Katyayani vrata.

Pavai Nombu is observed as Dhanurmasa Vratham in Andhra Pradesh. Thiruppavai is the sacred text recited during Dhanurmasa vratham. Dhanurmasam is one of the most auspicious months for Vaishnava sect of Hindus. It starts on Margashira Amavasya, the No Moon day in Margasira masam.

The sadhana of pavai vratam as envisaged by the elders have many elements that go towards self purification.in doing any vratams we should be pure and clean till it completes.

for parihaaram do pooja in temple by priest advice.

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Response from: murali n,   
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Source: bhagawat geeta
this month is meant for only spritual work. observing virathams, taking bath in the early morning is scientifically also good for month. in bhagawat geeta LORD has specifically narrated that this month is his pet month. that does not mean that all other months are not the good months. HE ushers his wishes specially in this month. hence it is good to 0bserve any virathams in this month. regarding your question , though one should spend this entire month with thoughts of GOD only. you can try to avoid as much as possible the relationship with your wife in this month. even though there is nothing wrong in that , pl avoid to get full undiverted concentration in viratham.

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Response from: suresh kumar,   
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VRATHAM MEANS SELF IMPOSITION OF CERTAIN DISCIPLINES AND ABSTAINING FROM THINGS THAT YOU HAVE IMPOSED NOT TO DO. SO NOT ASLLOWED.

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Response from: Ishwar Iyer,   
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I hope you both know the meaning of this vratham! Actually, as per the manuscripts, it is understood, this vratham is to be followed by young woman - maidens (is the meaning of paavai) during this auspicious month of Maarkazhi (Dhanur Maasa) for getting a soul-mate of her choice and on the completion of the calendar month she achieves her wish/vow. For the practice of any vratham - meaning celebasy, no physical contact is permitted with anyone and other restrictions laid to be followed. If you both desire more clarification, you may contact me by email. Good luck. Upasaka

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Response from: b.r j.,   
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such vrathams are undergone to focus our mind on God only. So we may bavoid such things while performing vratham.

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Response from: Raghunathan Srinivasan,   
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Pavai Viratham or Nonmbu is normally meant for virgin girls. But anyone can observe this. The month of Markazhi, auspicious month considered as a highly spiritual and divine month. Even Sri Krishnar says that in the month, he is Margazhi. This clearly explains the greatness of Margazhi. Margazhi is meant for strict abstinence from any kind of desires as desires take us away from God leading us to problems one by one. In order to slowly get rid of desires Nonbus/Virthams are undertaken. Andal performed the Pavai Nombu to merge with Sri Ranganatha.SUch a dedication is necessary. If one can not observe this, they need not take up Nonmbu instead visit temples in the mornings and actively participate in the Thrupavai programmes. Refer http://www.hindupad.com/2009/11/pav…-–-margazhi-nombu/

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Response from: ganapathi-agraharam vaidyanathan kannan,   
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dear questioner, In any sort of Vuratgan (fasting), intimate act of any kind between husband and wife is prohibited. It is not santitity if you indulge to do that. Fasting (viratham) of any kind is done to keep control of organs, especially of small pleasure. Beter and best to avoid all this, if u want to achieve your goal by keeping fast until u complete it religiously and devotionally. JAI MATHA DI.

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Response from: ramarao velury,   
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Dear, The vrathams are a method of developing the control of our senses ( all indriyas. It has some scientific basis. So abstinence is one such requirement of some vrathams. So any type of sexual activity - even mild as kissing - is a taboo. The purpose of the vratham is lost. If you undertake fast can u say that "can I have a cool drink?" . So be true to yourself.

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Response from: prabha singh,   
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Hi Udhay, There is nothing wrong if once you have kissed your wife but try to restrain from that. But try to restrain from it till you are having fast because we should follow satvik and brahmacharya niyam during fasts.

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Response from: ketan mehta,   
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In my view there is no problem

still try to avoid this kind of thing next time in fasting, pavitra mas... etc

while fast, puja, pavitra mas, hom havan body and soul should be pavitra

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Response from: sri hari,   
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you can kiss her but dont indulge in sex.best of luck.

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Response from: A R J V CHARYULU,   
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as far as i know there is nothing like that to be away form the family life- so enjoy

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Response from: Gopal Singh,   
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"Paavai Viratham" This viratham has some rules that do not allow enjoying day to day luxuries. etc. For the sake of viratham one should refrain from all kinds of pleasures so that they can develop “vairagyam”. A simple act of kissing, may distract one from the viratham, and make one feel like enjoying some worldly pleasures. Abstinence is recommended just prior to and during the Viratham, to ensure the success of the Viratham. To concentrate on the Divine, one has to minimize the distractions of this physical world.

I wish her success in her Viratham

Gopal

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